Questions and Answers from Joel

Many of us enjoy the classes in which Joel answers questions from students.  Sometimes the question is one that we ourselves might have asked.  Other times it is one that might not have occurred to us, but which we find interesting, and we are curious about how Joel will answer it.

On this page of our website, on the first and third Saturdays of the month, we will post a new question and answer from one of Joel’s classes or books.  We trust that you will find these interesting, helpful, and sometimes an answer to just what is on your mind.

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Posted on 9/7/19:

This excerpt is from Recording #606B, from the 1951 Second Portland Series, “Transition from Law to Grace.”  It is posted with kind permission from the Estate of Joel Goldsmith, which holds the copy protection on the recorded classes and the copyright on all transcripts. The full transcript of this recording is available at www.joelgoldsmith.com or by calling 1-800-922-3195.

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Q:  Why do truth students still come under claims of illness now and then and have to work out of them?

A:  Well, there could be a dozen different reasons for that.  One of them is this: Not one whom I’ve ever met has ever come into the full and complete realization of his Christhood.  Not one.  I have never known one, and I’ve never known one to make the claim.  I have met not only some of the great metaphysical teachers in our country; I have met some of the greatest mystics in the entire world.  I’m close to some of them, and they’re close to me.  But never have I met one who has made the claim of attaining conscious realization of the Christhood in its fullness.

Now then, every one of them does attain the full realization of the Christhood sometimes in meditation.  Sometimes in meditation, you attain your realization of the Christ so completely that you as a human being disappear. You have no sense of mind or body whatsoever, but as you come out of that, you take on more of your humanhood again. One of the reasons is this: For a person to accept and demonstrate their full Christhood, they must leave the world, even as the Master did. The Master never demonstrated the full Christhood while he was on earth. If he had, they couldn’t have crucified him on the cross, and they couldn’t have made blood run.

You remember that in the Garden of Gethsemane he prayed, “Let this cup pass from me. If not, then I’ll take it, but if possible, let it pass.”  He had not attained his complete Christhood.  But after the resurrection, he did.  When he did, he disappeared from the haunts of men. So it is today.  It is possible for a mystic to attain the full measure of Christhood, but if they do, and want to remain there, they can’t come back to earth and say, “I’m going to give a metaphysical lecture to help you,” because they will have again accepted your humanhood, and in accepting your humanhood, they themselves will have come back into this sense of humanhood. The only time that one may attain the fullness is when they have dropped the entire world from their being.  That’s number one.

There are other reasons. Your teacher, your leader, your practitioner gets to the place like Caruso. Those of you who saw that picture, “Caruso,” will remember where he says, “We think we have a voice, a talent, but we haven’t. The talent has us. And it governs us.”  He says, “You know, sometimes we want to be in one place, but the voice has to be in another place, so we have to be there with it.”  So it is in this work.  Never think for a moment that we have government or jurisdiction over our lives.  This thing that has touched us has control over us, and it does with us as it will.

So, there are times when we should be away for ten days or two weeks or a month of meditation, of communion, of writing out these unfolding ideas.  We may want to do it, and just at that time, some patient needs us, or some group needs us, or some classes must be at that time, or some conference comes.  So, you leave your forty days that you should be on the mountaintop for complete realization so you can come down and serve your fellow man.  In that degree, you deprive yourself of the opportunity for greater personal unfoldment.   In the end, it’s no loss; it doesn’t make any difference.  But it accounts for the fact that there are times when the human sense of existence presses in, and a teacher or a leader may come under that pressure.

The same thing happens to physicians when they think too much of their patients and too little of their own health.  Here we are not concerned with our health, but what is important to us is opportunity for meditation, for communion with God, for living and moving in a state of divine consciousness away from the world.  Of course, if we could have more opportunities for that, we could also do better healing work.  And so that is the reason why all of our healings are not instantaneous.  It is also the reason why at times, we ourselves come under some claim of human existence.  Always remember that the word itself is pure, complete, and perfect, but those who voice it have not yet attained the completeness of its realization and revelation.

Previously Posted Questions and Answers

8/17/19:  If we are reincarnated, why does the population increase?
8/3/19:  Can one ever make a decision if he successfully refrains from judging?
7/20/19:  Some say there is no physical body, only spiritual body. What then is this body which we now use?
7/6/19: Is it the material body which manifests God? 
6/15/19: How did Moses do his works such as turning a stick into a serpent, which is usually regarded as phenomena of hypnotism? 
6/1/19: Please speak about the transfiguration.
5/18/19: Christian Science teaches that the body is a sensual concept.  The Infinite Way teaches that the body is the temple of the living God.  Would you clarify this, please?
5/4/19: You have said in your writings that supply is one of the easiest demonstrations for a spiritual student to make.  Why? 
4/20/19: What is your interpretation when Jesus said, “My God, why hast Thou forsaken me?”
4/6/19: How does one pray for one’s enemies if one does not take cognizance of error into prayer?
3/16/19: Do you recommend the New English Bible, New Testament by Oxford University and Cambridge University Press, and other versions and translations such as the Revised Standard Version Holy Bible by George Lamsa and the Smith Goodspeed Bible?
3/2/19: Please explain how to distinguish the difference between the Presence and an emotional sensation. 
2/16/19: Please explain: “Your heavenly Father knoweth what things ye have need of…”
2/2/19: How can I experience myself more and more as Spirit without getting into the mental plane?
1/19/19: Will you please explain pre-existent consciousness that one brings forth with them?
1/5/19: Why doesn’t God make surgery unnecessary? 

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